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    OxyApos got a reaction from Kelly Guenthner in Ortho Vision reagent red cell on-board stability   
    I believe the antibiotics and antifungals start to degrade after 5 days onboard rather rapidly.  The excessive ? reactions are not worth the hassle.  
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    OxyApos reacted to Neil Blumberg in Verbal Request for Emerg Blood   
    In emergencies, we always accept verbal orders for transfusion.  These should be followed up by a request documented in our electronic medical record, but that's after the fact.  If you have a paper system, then the followup order is documented that way.  There is a regulatory/accreditation requirement, which I consider bureaucratic, obstructive and useless,  that these emergency requests require a signed release from the ordering practitioner, if the transfusion is not fully tested for the recipient.  
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    OxyApos reacted to Mabel Adams in HTLA v. Dara v. PEG reactive Cold v. High Freq   
    This is from our ABID SOP (sorry the format is weird): 
    a.    Warm Autoantibody Guidelines –(Expert judgment is required on a case-by-case basis to supplement these guidelines.  Contact supervisor or Reference Lab for advice) [return to top]
                            i.        Clues it’s a Warm Auto
    1.    Reacts with most or all cells tested—usually at a fairly consistent strength.
    2.    Positive DAT.
    3.    If it is severe enough that there is hemolytic anemia, the patient would be anemic with a high LDH or bilirubin and high reticulocyte count.  The patient’s plasma sample may appear hemolyzed or icteric.  Haptoglobin would be low.
    4.    Contact Blood Bank Supervisor for further consult if uncertain. 
    5.    Patient has not taken anti-CD38 (daratumumab/Darzalex/DARA) or anti-CD47 drugs in prior 6 months.
                          ii.        Clues it’s NOT a Warm Auto
    1.    Reactivity with most or all cells in gel, usually 2+ or less, varying strength could be HTLA-like antibody or antibody to gel diluent. It’s not uncommon for patients to have a positive DAT without having a detectable warm auto antibody so the positive DAT could be present coincidentally.
    a.    To confirm antibody to gel diluent, convert 3% screen cells to 0.8% to run in gel. If negative, turn out the 3-cell gel screen and document situation in the patient record.
    b.    An HLTA-like antibody will usually remain detectable (although sometimes weaker) in PEG and even saline techniques.
    2.    Alloantibodies:
    a.    If patient transfused in the prior 3 months, confer with the most expert person available before calling it a warm-auto.
    b.    Elution may produce both a panagglutinin and another specificity or may show only a new alloantibody. The panagglutinin may be so strong a weak allo is undetectable.
    c.    If the DAT looks mixed field (repeat IgG DAT in gel for clear-cut mixed field), it may be an allo.
    3.    Drug-induced antibody:
    a.    Research patient’s diagnoses for multiple myeloma, amyloidosis, or other autoimmune diseases. Look for recent surgeries or infections as a clue for cephalosporin treatment. Research their drug history for cephalosporins and anti-CD38 or anti-CD47 drugs.  There is variability whether these present with only a positive DAT (more common with cephalosporins) or with a negative DAT and positive screen or with both positive.
    b.    Rarely, other drugs cause what looks like a warm autoantibody.
                         iii.        When the Auto control (AC) or DAT is positive, first check transfusion history.  The AC could be positive due to a delayed serologic/hemolytic transfusion reaction and NOT a warm auto.  See Positive autocontrol.
                         iv.        If not already done, perform a DAT (Direct Antiglobulin Test Procedure).  Warm autoantibody patients can have RBCs coated with IgG only or IgG and complement both.  Occasionally, only complement may be present.
                          v.        If not already done, perform an antibody panel in gel (or other primary testing method).
                         vi.        People who make warm autoantibodies are more likely to make allo-antibodies as well. We need to identify any allo-antibodies in the sample so we want to avoid detecting the autoantibody if possible but still be able to detect allo-antibodies (at least strong ones).
                        vii.        If reactivity in gel is < 1+ or there are some negative reactions, start a 3% tube PEG antibody screen.  If reactivity in gel is ≥ 1+, start a 3% Saline (no enhancement) 30-minute tube antibody screen.  If amount of specimen is minimal, skip PEG screen and only do saline or, if some negatives, rule out with negative reactions found in gel and run selected cells needed to complete ruling out the usual antibody specificities.
                       viii.        If patient has not been recently transfused and usual specificities can’t be ruled out in tube testing, a PEG Autoadsorption should be considered.  PEG adsorptions should not be attempted with patients who have a strong complement coating.
                         ix.        If can’t rule out usual specificities in tube testing and the patient has been transfused in the past 3 months, send the specimen to the Reference Lab for allo-adsorptions to determine the presence/absence of underlying alloantibodies. See Red Cross (ARC) BloodHub/Connect--Standard Work.  If the patient is too critical to wait for the workup, contact the on-call Pathologist and Blood Bank supervisor.  Phenotypically matched units may be indicated. See Increased Risk Transfusion Release Form. 
                          x.        Turn out ABID results as Warm Autoantibody plus any other specificities detected.
                         xi.        Approach to crossmatching in the presence of warm auto-antibodies:
    Situation
    Pt Hemolyzing*
    XM Methods
    XM Results
    Enough negs in gel to rule out all usual Ab specificities
    Yes
    Gel
    Incompatible
    Enough negs in gel to rule out all usual Ab specificities
    No
    Gel
    Compatible
    Can rule out all usual Ab specificities in PEG
    Yes
    Gel
    Incompatible
    Can rule out all usual Ab specificities in PEG
    No
    PEG
    Compatible
    Can rule out all usual Ab specificities in Saline
    Yes
    Gel
    Incompatible
    Can rule out all usual Ab specificities in Saline
    No
    Saline
    Compatible
    Alloantibodies identified or can’t rule out some Ab specificities in Saline
    Yes
    Saline** to assess compatibility with allos, then gel to turn out results
    Incompatible
    Alloantibodies identified or can’t rule out some Ab specificities in Saline
    No
    Saline
    Compatible
    Autoadsorption required and able to rule out usual Ab specificities
    Yes or No
    Gel with neat plasma
    Incompatible
    Autoadsorption required and alloantibodies identified or can’t rule out usual Ab specificities
    Yes or No
    With adsorbed sample** to assess compatibility with allos, then gel with neat sample to turn out results
    Incompatible
     
    *If patient is hemolyzing, no transfused unit will be truly compatible. Use “incompatible” XM result code in STTx, not “least incompatible” for these cases.
    **If second XM method (that’s not to be turned out) is required, record on log sheet.
    1.    Warm Auto Notes:
    a.    The purpose of the PEG or Saline Antibody screen or PEG adsorption is not to be able to call the primary antibody screen negative, but to rule out underlying alloantibodies.  Generally, these tube ABSC’s will NOT be reported in STTx.
    b.    Incubation in the presence of enhancement (gel/PEG) reagents may cause reactivity in the AC that is only an in vitro phenomenon. If the DAT is negative and the AC is positive, antibodies to enhancement constituent or autoantibodies reactive only in enhancement medium should be considered.  An Antibody Elution (Eluate) may help determine the presence/absence of warm autoantibody reactivity.
    c.    If the patient is demonstrating active hemolysis, use gel or PEG to crossmatch units. The units still may suffer shortened red cell survival in vivo so calling them incompatible is justifiable.
    d.    Consult with Blood Bank Supervisor about performing a full phenotype with the available monoclonal (non-AHG) antisera.  Consider giving phenotypically similar RBCs for transfusion.  If alloantibodies are ruled out in a current specimen, units that are only historically antigen-negative are acceptable.   If we must transfuse before alloantibodies can be ruled out, confirmed antigen-matched units are advised if time permits.
    e.    Warm autoantibodies can be confirmed in one of two ways: demonstrate that EGA-treated (antibody removed) pre-transfusion autologous cells react with neat plasma or prove that the antibody reactivity is adsorbed out with pre-transfusion, autologous cells.
    f.     Patients on daratumumab (Darzalex or DARA or other anti-cd38 drugs) may appear to have a warm auto antibody but it is actually the drug reacting with the cd38 antigens on the red cells. They may have either a negative or positive DAT and AC.  The only effective way to test these patients is to test against DTT treated cells, recognizing that this will miss antibodies to antigens destroyed by DTT like the Kell system.  These patients benefit from having a pre-treatment antibody screen run and possibly antigen typing for K (and if K positive, for k).  In most cases molecular genotyping may be indicated. See Dithiothreitol (DTT) Treatment and Anti-CD38 Drugs (daratumumab/Darzalex)--Blood Bank Testing.
    g.    Additional anti-CD38 drug therapeutics are in clinical trials in addition to Daratumumab (Janssen Biotech) include MOR202 (MorphoSys), Sarclisa -Isatuximab (Sanofi-Aventis), and TAK-079 (Takeda) for treatment of systemic lupus erythematosus, Amyloidosis, or other autoimmune diseases. Daratumumab and Sarclisa are approved for treating multiple myeloma.
    h.    CD47 is a glycoprotein expressed on all cells including RBCs and platelets, which usually signals to prevent phagocytosis.  Anti-CD47 blocks this signal targeting cells for destruction. Samples from patients taking anti-CD47 drugs (Hu5F9-G4 or avelumab) will react with everything like a warm auto and the reverse type may be affected like a cold auto. Anti-CD47 interferes with all RBC and platelet serological tests performed including ABO reverse typing. False positive reactions can be seen in all phases of testing (immediate spin, 37°C, and IAT) and with all forms of IAT testing (i.e., tube, gel, solid phase). Reactions with D negative cells may be stronger than with other Rh phenotypes. False negative phenotyping test results can occur due to RBCs heavily coated by anti-CD47. DATs may be falsely negative due to a “blocking effect” caused by high levels of antibody present, but eluates are strongly positive. Plasma interference and strong panreactive eluates are observed as soon as 1 hour after drug infusion. CD47 antigens cannot be denatured with DDT or other common denaturing agents.  It is highly recommended to perform pretransfusion testing, including blood type, antibody screen and extended phenotype (either serological or predictive genotype) before initiating treatment. Using monoclonal Gamma-clone Anti-IgG in indirect antiglobulin testing (which does not detect IgG4 immune classes like anti-CD47) may avoid most of the interference in AHG testing.  Giving antigen-matched units may be an option if full phenotyping is available.  [return to top]
    i.      Additional CD47 drug therapies are also in clinical trials and include the CD47 targeting antibodies CC9002 (Celgene), which, like Hu5F9, is also an IgG4 antibody, and the human monoclonal SRF231 (Surface Oncology). CD47 agonists are also in clinical trials. These include TT1-621 (Trillium)31 and ALX148 (ALX Oncology), which are fusion proteins with the Fc region of IgG1 antibody fused to the CD47-binding domain of SIRPα with the goal of interrupting the CD47-SIRPα survival signal. Unlike CD47-targeting antibodies, TT1-621 appears to bind only minimally to human RBCs and interference in pretransfusion testing has not been observed or reported to date.
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    OxyApos got a reaction from applejw in Grifols Gel card manually Validation   
    why not just use grifols' cells?
     
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    OxyApos reacted to Malcolm Needs in new edition of The Blood Group Antigen FactsBook. 3rd edition, 2012?   
    I don't know, although I have heard rumours.

    I'll contact Martin Olsson via Jill Storry, but you'll have to give me a couple of days.
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    OxyApos got a reaction from JustaKIDD in Ortho Vision QC   
    You can now edit QC on the Vision.  You may also use User Defined QC.  Whole blood samples for Blood Bank and hemolysis can be problematic with any vendor or homemade creation.  The AlbaQ has less problem when stored in the upright position during storage, even the vials not yet in use.  It is very reliable and there's the ease of use with standard results and barcoding.
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    OxyApos reacted to Townsend in Ortho Vision   
    Just thought I would confirm from an earlier reply of mine that you can now load partial gel cards onto the Vision.  This is after their software upgrade that came out near the end of 2016.  You should not load partial cards that have had any columns run by manual testing, but you can load it back on if it was only used on the analyzer.  The partial cards are loaded in the manual review rack (dual purpose drawer) and they are held in the middle incubator (not in the main gel card drawer).  If the card is not used in 4 hours, it will get spit out again in the manual review rack.  You can re-load it again if you would like to; or if it is a less frequently used card, like the Poly cards for us, then you can wait and re-load it once you need that type of card again.
    Hope this makes sense and is helpful.
    Stephanie
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    OxyApos reacted to R1R2 in Ortho Vision   
    I should add that most validation policies require that the span of reactions be tested (in this case negative, w+ to 4+) as well as testing reactions per well so you should pick your samples wisely.  Don't forget that this instrument has been through rigorous testing to pass FDA approval so no need to reinvent the wheel IMO.   
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    OxyApos got a reaction from CMCDCHI in Preadmit Specimens with positive antibody screens   
    Ours is like someone above, if they haven't been further exposed to antigens ( trans or preg ) then the specimen is valid to use.  We only allow 10 days.  People with antibodies are the whole point of PAT in BB...to not delay surgery because of the unexpected.  The billing from one account # to another is a nightmare so there has to be some advantage for us!! 
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    OxyApos reacted to AMcCord in Anyone validate prewarm xm using gel?   
    Agree with David and knelson. I played with prewarm gel and it just didn't work well, especially with stronger colds. I'd recommend sticking with tube.
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    OxyApos reacted to David Saikin in Anyone validate prewarm xm using gel?   
    I don't believe you can perform a strict prewarmed in gel due to the 10 minutes centrifugation cycle.  I always do prewarmed in tubes.
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    OxyApos reacted to David Saikin in Automated segment decanter for cross match testing   
    In the USA we must retype the units received prior to their use (in the clinical setting).   Do you have to recheck the type every time you xm the same unit?
    Seems a bit burdensome, esp considering the numbers your techs have to deal with.
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    OxyApos reacted to Auntie-D in 2 Hospitals--1 system   
    Much safer this way - allows antibodies picked on one site to be viewed at another. Also less risk of WBIT ABO discrepancies with combined systems. Both labs must follow the same SOPs though.
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    OxyApos reacted to goodchild in 2 Hospitals--1 system   
    (I don't claim to be a HIPAA interpretation guru) but to me that sounds appropriate. As a blood banker, having access to clinical laboratory and especially blood bank information is valuable in establishing a history for a patient and isn't a breach of HIPAA if used for that purpose under the continuity of care.
    We have access to our state's health information exchange, which is essentially a web-based database of all hospital encounter/medical record/laboratory documentation in the state for the past 4 years. We use it to determine history on antibody patients and it has been invaluable.
    The only thing that seems odd is that it doesn't understand when a type and screen is done at one place or the other.
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    OxyApos got a reaction from Malcolm Needs in Sunquest BAD file   
    Oh Malcolm.  Sunquest has one big area for all of that info.  Your "codes" you create when designing the system are the only tools you get to distinguish the info.  For example , we designed all "antibody" codes to start with Anti.... so they'd be segregated.  Antigen typing is Pos... or Neg......   Real molecular testing info has to be hand typed into a "comment".   Real fun for new generalist techs to make heads or tails of a juicy sickle patient at 3am.
     
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    OxyApos reacted to galvania in Lot to Lot Comparison   
    Actually it doesn't make any sense to compare one lot of screening cells with another one.  they won't be the same.  They CAN'T be the same - they won't be the same donors.  so the antigen profiles will be different (although there are usually some phenotypes that are 'fixed'), and the antigen density of the cells will have the normal variation found in the normal donor population.  You should expect to see a certain difference
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    OxyApos reacted to Marianne in Lot to Lot Comparison   
    The fact that some of us are getting conflicting information from CAP is a bit concerning.  We implemented the lot to lot on Fetal kits a little over a year ago after being told it was required (like DebbieL).  I would hesitate to drop that one unless I had it in writing from Denise Driscoll at CAP that it is not required.
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    OxyApos reacted to mld123 in Lot to Lot Comparison   
    I contacted CAP today and they stated that the lot to lot comparison does not apply to any transfusion service related reagents including kits.  I specifically asked about the Fetal Screen Kit and they said it is not required.
    I may change our procedure to only the kits and not any of the other reagents just to be on the safe side.
     
    thanks!!
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    OxyApos got a reaction from jfboyer in Cross Training   
    Our Blood Bankers used to perform apheresis.  It became a drain on our staffing ( which the hospital didn't care about) but it was also risky to these very sick patients.  As David points out, the patient can code, have severe side effects to the procedure, etc and traditionally MTs are not fully trained to deal with that.  This was ages ago, but once the machine malfunctioned & wouldn't return the patients blood/plasma.  Talk about an oh $!-!I+ look between techs!!!
     
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    OxyApos got a reaction from jojo808 in No enhancement   
    We have solid phase and occasionally get these "warm auto" like reactions.  Doing a tube screen w/o enhancement ( aka 30" saline) is our problem solving method.  If the patient has been transfused we'll do AHG XM just to make sure.  Like Malcolm says, before all these new fangled but convenient techniques people were not dropping dead from every transfusion.
     
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    OxyApos got a reaction from StevenB in No enhancement   
    We have solid phase and occasionally get these "warm auto" like reactions.  Doing a tube screen w/o enhancement ( aka 30" saline) is our problem solving method.  If the patient has been transfused we'll do AHG XM just to make sure.  Like Malcolm says, before all these new fangled but convenient techniques people were not dropping dead from every transfusion.
     
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    OxyApos got a reaction from John Eggington in No enhancement   
    We have solid phase and occasionally get these "warm auto" like reactions.  Doing a tube screen w/o enhancement ( aka 30" saline) is our problem solving method.  If the patient has been transfused we'll do AHG XM just to make sure.  Like Malcolm says, before all these new fangled but convenient techniques people were not dropping dead from every transfusion.
     
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    OxyApos got a reaction from exlimey in No enhancement   
    We have solid phase and occasionally get these "warm auto" like reactions.  Doing a tube screen w/o enhancement ( aka 30" saline) is our problem solving method.  If the patient has been transfused we'll do AHG XM just to make sure.  Like Malcolm says, before all these new fangled but convenient techniques people were not dropping dead from every transfusion.
     
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    OxyApos got a reaction from Malcolm Needs in No enhancement   
    We have solid phase and occasionally get these "warm auto" like reactions.  Doing a tube screen w/o enhancement ( aka 30" saline) is our problem solving method.  If the patient has been transfused we'll do AHG XM just to make sure.  Like Malcolm says, before all these new fangled but convenient techniques people were not dropping dead from every transfusion.
     
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    OxyApos reacted to amym1586 in Bloodbanking for another hospital   
    In my eyes it's 10 miles away.  Just bring them here! 
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