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Has anyone had success with Adobe or even Excel in creating QC entry forms for antigen typing? We are loosing Meditech in the Spring and have had that option-love it! Now we are faced with going back to paper, which no one wants to do.

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  • Malcolm Needs
    Malcolm Needs

    In the UK, unless a piece of work (such as running positive and negative controls) is signed and dated by the person carrying out the work, it is regarded as not having been done in the first place. 

  • David Saikin
    David Saikin

    How can you prove anyone did anything?  Unless you watch.  Inspectors cannot impune your work is bogus based on your process, unless something seems amiss.  I would immediately contact their regulator

  • I like the not black or red ink logic; all other colors clearly indicate an original document and not a photocopy. As long as it is permanent and waterproof any other color or shade of ink works. I pe

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Hi @Dkadrums, were you able to find the form you were needing? If so, would you be able to post an update on your solution?  I've used Excel for this, but only to create the template since there has to be a way to ID the work back to the tech, and inspectors don't like typed initials as 'proof' an individual ran the testing (especially if it's something that can be edited). Dropping this into Adobe would be better if you can require the form be digitally signed.

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On 5/31/2022 at 7:29 AM, OneMore said:

 . . . inspectors don't like typed initials as 'proof' an individual ran the testing (especially if it's something that can be edited).

How can you prove anyone did anything?  Unless you watch.  Inspectors cannot impune your work is bogus based on your process, unless something seems amiss.  I would immediately contact their regulatory agency and ask for the official stance on such and/or a replacement inspector. 

comment_83662

In the UK, unless a piece of work (such as running positive and negative controls) is signed and dated by the person carrying out the work, it is regarded as not having been done in the first place.  While I am not, by a long way, in favour of everything suggested by either  "Internal Quality", or "External Inspectors", in this I stand four square with them.  On the other hand, when they prescribe what colour ink we should use, they can go take a running jump, as far as I am concerned.

comment_83670

I like the not black or red ink logic; all other colors clearly indicate an original document and not a photocopy. As long as it is permanent and waterproof any other color or shade of ink works. I personally like weird blues

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1 hour ago, Ensis01 said:

I like the not black or red ink logic; all other colors clearly indicate an original document and not a photocopy. As long as it is permanent and waterproof any other color or shade of ink works. I personally like weird blues

I agree. I like the blue ink option because it used to be an obvious indication that the document is the original. Now, with color photocopiers in widespread use, I have to double check. Sneaky !

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8 hours ago, exlimey said:

I agree. I like the blue ink option because it used to be an obvious indication that the document is the original. Now, with color photocopiers in widespread use, I have to double check. Sneaky !

Never yet seen a color photocopier at any place I have worked

comment_83676
14 hours ago, Ensis01 said:

Never yet seen a color photocopier at any place I have worked

Our machine is a combo color printer/photocopier/scanner. Just like most "multi-tools", it's OK, but doesn't really do all of its tasks exceptionally well. Grey shading often comes out bluish and when it scans colored materials, the colors are badly translated. Ho-hum, First World problems.

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I've used Excel for this for many years and at different facilities.  Never had inspectors questions digital initials/dates as we have change tracking and correction clearly outlined in SOP and turned on change tracking in Excel, with edits logged at the bottom of the form.  I find it so nice because you can add conditional formatting such as the QC result can turn red if not within range and it is so much easier for me to do review without having to gather everything.  Lab Director review can be done at their desk or remotely as well!  It's very convenient.

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