amyw_3 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'm only a year out of MT school and now the blood bank supervisor at a small hospital. I was wondering what kind of testing you all do on donor blood. We receive our units from Lifeblood and currently do ABORH on all units and additional weak D testing on the negative units. Reading the technical manual I take it that we only need to be doing ABO on units labeled positive and ABORH on units labeled negative with no weak D testing. Is this common practice or do most still do the additional testing? Also, would it be acceptable to just change this procedure or is there more to it than that? THanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcsmrz Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We follow the Tech Manual for retypes: just recheck Rh type on RhPos units with no WeakD testing. We use Anti-A,B on Group O units, instead of Anti-A and Anti-B -- local tradition, more than necesssity.You should follow your change control procedure for making any changes. For us, this involves getting the MD approval, validating any computer modifications, revising the SOPs, retraining staff, implementing the change, and writing an after-action report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMcCord Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We also follow the tech manual with anti-A,B for group O units and no weak D for the Rh check on Rh neg units.You definitely should have the approval of your medical director to change policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Congratulations on your quick advancement to a supervisor position! I think you will find this site to be a wealth of helpful information. We don't carry anti-A,B so we test with anti-A and anti-B. We test immediate spin D's only on the Rh neg units. For those of you using A,B and an LIS, did you make a separate field to result the A,B instead of the anti-A and anti-B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L106 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We do a forward grouping using Anti-A and Anti-B reagents on all donor units received from an outside source. Exception: If the tech prefers, she/he may perform the forward grouping using only Anti-A,B reagent (instead of using Anti-A and Anti-B reagents) on donor units labeled as Group O.We do a one-tube Rh typing (immediate spin only) using Anti-D on all donor units from an outside source that are labeled as Rh Negative. We do not perform the Weak D testing.Concerning our computer system, we do have a separate field (which is an "optional" field) for Anti-A,B results. We built and validated the ABO Truth Table of our "Donor Confirmation" testing to accept the interpretation of "Group O" if there are no results in the Anti-A or Anti-B fields and the results in the Anti-A,B field is "Neg". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We do forward grouping using anti-A & anti-B reagent on all donors. We do RH typing on all Rh neg donors including weak D but Weak D is not required and we are in process of changing it but need to chage LIS. and as usual our LIS deparment is not very helpful when it comes to making changes fro blood bank and most of the time I end up doing that for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene20354 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 We test our donor types on the Galileo. Before the Galileo we used A,B for O units and immediate spin D typing on Rh negative units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Is anyone using ProVue for retyping donors? I know ProVue cAan read ISBT numbers but still there is a problem in reading alpha numeric number such as Red cross units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancanne Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Does it specifically say in the Technical Manual that you can use A,B for the ABO on Group O or is this just understood? I am trying to revise my policy and I can't really find that. Thanks for any help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clmergen Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The standards and Tech Manual just say that a serologic test to confirm the ABO group must be performed. I like the use of Anti-A,B because it is quicker, less wasteful, and occasionally you can pick up that weak A subgroup that doesn't always show with Anti-A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathyang Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 We confirm our testing on the ProVue. We have SOFT as our LIS and we don't have problems with Red Cross units since eveything passes across to SOFT. We use the A/B/D card for all our retypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlemmons Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 We use the ProVue to retype units. We use A,B cards for O pos units, Anti-A and Anti-B (on a single card) for A pos and B pos units and Anti-A, Anti-B and Anti-D for all Rh negative units. We don't stock AB units so don't have to deal with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimie Nicholson Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 We call it group checking, and we use instant spin tube technique. We test O units with anti-A,B, and all the other types with anti-A and anti-B, and additonally all Rh(D) negative units with anti-D. Weak D testing is not considered necessary. We didn't do any of that until we started electronic issuing, though, before that we did an instant spin crossmatch before all issues, and that was considered sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabel Adams Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Most of the anti-A,B on the market these days is just a mixture of monoclonal anti-A and monoclonal anti-B, isn't it? Unless they have made it simply stronger, it should not be better at picking up subgroups. Do you know if the one you use is monoclonal or formulated with higher titers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimie Nicholson Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 The anti-A,B we use claims to be monoclonal, according to the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clmergen Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 We use Immucor Series 1 which is a monoclonal blend. It is a blend of Anti-A (series 1), Anti-B (series 1) and another clone. We did pick up a weak subgroup of A last year that was negative with Anti-A (series 1) and very weakly positive with Anti-A,B (series 1). We sent the unit back to the supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenJ Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) We also do Anti A and Anti B forwards and anti A,B for O's. We do not do weak D to confirm the negatives. Edited May 8, 2009 by KarenJ can't type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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