Mabel Adams Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 What kind of timing are you all seeing for CAP inspections now that they are surprise? Are they coming the first month you are eligible for inspection, 2-3 months later or is it widely variable? Please share your experiences. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevydawn Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Ours was during the very last month and when we went and inspected another facility, it was also within their last month. I don't know if that is how they are all falling or it just worked out that way with us. Also, I'd look more for a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarotto Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 We are due to be inspected by May 6th. We had to get our paperwork in to CAP by January 15th. We figure it takes a few weeks to get it processed and out to the inspection team. We also think we will be inspected toward the end of the cycle, especially if the team is from outside the region. It is difficult enough to get a team together without having to worry about possible cancellation due to snow days (you folks in Upstate NY are probably safe from inspections until July). As it turns out, most of our blackout dates are in April since there are several meetings (CLMA, and state BB association) as well as a school vacation week in April. We are thinking late March, early April, or the first week in May. Has anyone had simultaneous CAP and FDA inspections? I just had FDA a few weeks ago so I am safe this time around. Has anyone had a multi-day CAP inspection? One of our pathologists was on a CAP team last week and the inspection spanned two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Olsen Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Our last CAP inspection was at the end of the last month in the cycle. We did an inspection recently and it was at the end of their cycle. I don't know if it usually works out that way or not. I'm wishing I could do an inspection in upstate NY about now!! I miss the snow and one day would be about enough of a fix!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcurrie Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Most of the time it is one day for the main lab, but I have had 2-day inspections. In 2004 I had a coordinated CAP/AABB inspection that lasted 3 days. My FDA inspections are on odd-numbered years. I was 1500 miles from the lab when the FDA showed up in 2005. But that was okay, because when I got home 4 days later, they were still there.BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarotto Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Our CAP inspection team arrived this morning. We are in Massachusetts and the team is from New Brunswick Canada. They plan on staying 3 days. We submitted our inspection materials to CAP January 15th and our due date was May 6th. They said they received the information we submitted to CAP pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcurrie Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Good luck! We are all counting on you! (One of my favorite quotes from Airplane!)BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Our CAP inspection team arrived this morning. We are in Massachusetts and the team is from New Brunswick Canada. They plan on staying 3 days. We submitted our inspection materials to CAP January 15th and our due date was May 6th. They said they received the information we submitted to CAP pretty quickly. Good Luck! Next three days will be too long for you but I am sure you will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarotto Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Three days is not a problem for us in Blood Bank. We have always had to deal with unnanounced FDA inspections, and they can last a lot longer than three days. The rest of the lab was thrown for a loop, though!The inspection team is very considerate and are not taking up too much of our time. They ask for manuals, read through them then come to us with any questions. They are asking to see all the things they are expected to observe without interfering with our workflow. I would have to say spreading things out over several days is better than an inspector cramming everything into a day and then citing us for things they didn't see and assumed we did not have in place. This has happened to us several times, requiring that we submit documentation to get the deficiency expunged. In the end, we have always prevailed but it did not make for a pleasant experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C. Staley Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I've found that if you curl into the fetal position and hold real still they'll just sniff you a couple of times and then go away. That's always worked for me. :>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarotto Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I'll have to try that next time, John! Anyway, we just had our summation meeting and we are deficiency free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C. Staley Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Congratulations!! Did they mention anything about your plan to prevent "mis-transfusions?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarotto Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Yes, they certainly did ask about the wrong blood in tube issue. I showed them minutes from discussions that have been held with the trauma and transfusion committees. We made it perfectly clear that whatever we implement will be for ALL transfusions, not just non-emergent ones. Bedside scanning is still a few years away for us so for patients with no historical type we will most likely use the second blood type method if an initial stick type with anti-A,B is positive. If the physician can not wait for the second type, we will invoke the emergency release protocol. If testing with anti-A.B is negative, we will not require a new sample before releasing blood since we will be issuing Group O blood. We will still test a 2nd sample as soon as possible. The inspector seemed satisfied with this. My feeling is that CAP will make this "plan" a "requirement" by our next inspection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcurrie Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I am about ready to take my patient RFID chip company public. I have hired a fulltime lobbyist to work on convincing the FDA, The Joint Commission (no longer called JCAHO), CAP, and AABB that the only safe way to identify a patient is with my RFID chip, inserted under the skin of the left eyebrow. I have brought Homeland Security into the picture also. They like it, but want to make sure it works with their new skin-deep x-ray system they are installing in airports. So far the chip doesn't appear to be affected by low dose gamma rays, although one of my chips, when exposed to 25 GY (yes, I used my irradiator at work), changed the patient's name from "John Smith" to "Mr. Ed."BC;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabel Adams Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Bob, this simply won't work. What are you going to do with your repeat patient who has had his forehead blown off? Where is your chip then, huh??? Name me a body part you can attach it to that will never be injured or surgically removed. You can't even imbed it in the brain, as we all know of some people that seem to lack that organ. Keep trying. I am sure you will think of a sure winner yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcurrie Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Two of my researchers, Hans and Frans, are working on a butt chip. It will obviously work for most Americans.BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shari Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Ours happened on the last possible day, so it really was no surprise. We have conducted a few, and have selected Wednesday or Thursday for the day. The date we try to plan somewhere in the middle of their cycle. We have experienced relief on the part of the staff where we have conducted the inspections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEA Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Our CAP inspection was the last week in the last month.JA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donellda Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Our inspectors showed up at the Core Lab today:eek:. My lab director called me and said they were on their way but she wasn't sure to where. I wanted to run out of the building:cries:. Today was just not the day for them to walk in. Luckily they stayed downtown however, we can expect a visit on Wednesday:confused:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcurrie Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I have a theory that you can address any issue by using a quote from a movie line. Based on that theory, here is my reply:Good luck! We are all counting on you!And don't call me Shirley.Now, for $10,000 and control of the board, what movie?BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarotto Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I am usually not good at movie trivia but I know this one. It is.... Airplane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarotto Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Darn, wouldn't you know my trivia reply started a new page. Anyone just joining this thread is going to think they are in the wrong place. To get back on topic, I wish donnelda luck with her CAP inspection. I hope you are not due for FDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcurrie Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 After my 2-week plus FDA inspection, I say bring on CAP, JCAHO, and AABB- all in one day if they want (although I already had those inspections earlier in the year). Yes, Airplane! it is. I shouldn't have made it so easy with the "And don't call me Shirley" line. BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhaig Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Did you ask your inspectors if they liked movies about gladiators?:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcurrie Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 The FDA is like the Texas Rangers- one lab: one inspector. This reference goes back to the story of a request of the Texas Rangers to prevent a prize fight in Dallas. One Ranger showed up. The mayor asked the Ranger, "where are the others?" The Ranger said, "Hell, ain't I enough? There's only one prize fight!" This evolved into the saying, "One riot, one Ranger."BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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