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We have a patient who came in recently and required a unit of PRBCs.   The patient is an A1 positive with a history of anti-K and LuA dating back to 1999. 

 

Today his/her AB screen was negative using gel(no hemolysis was seen).

2 units of A pos red cells were crossmatched using gel, per our protocol. 

To our surprise, both columns were completely hemolyzed.
 

An AB panal was then done, which was negative, as was the poly and mono DAT.

 

The patient was then gel crossmathed with O cells, which were negative with no hemolysis.

 

Ultimatly the patient received one unit of o cells without incident.

 

We can't figure out what's going on.  Does anyone have an idea?

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Hank  

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  • Brenda K Hutson
    Brenda K Hutson

    We had a case like this recently. Turned out the patient had received IVIgG and there was a passive transfer of Anti-A (which we also eluted). Brenda Hutson

  • Malcolm Needs
    Malcolm Needs

    Pain in the neck sometimes is IVIG.

  • John C. Staley
    John C. Staley

    Malcolm, I'm impressed.  You appear to be channeling your inner Yoda!    It can be frustrating to do a lot of workup to discover the problem is reagent related.

comment_54970

Did you inspect the A units?  Can you run them in gel without patient plasma or with a different patient's plasma and see what happens?

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comment_54973

Thanks R1R2,  It seems like the MTS diluent may have been bad.  I repeated the gel XMs with freshly opened diluent and the XMs were negative with no hemolysis.  I then repeated with the old MTS diluent

and there was some hemolysis. 

The problem may just be with the diluent.  Maybe I should have done complete testing before posting my

problem..........oh well.

 

Thanks again for your help.

comment_54984

We had a case like this recently. Turned out the patient had received IVIgG and there was a passive transfer of

Anti-A (which we also eluted).

Brenda Hutson

comment_54986

Pain in the neck sometimes is IVIG.

comment_54996

Had a couple of other thoughts last night.....has the patient received a lot of ABO Incompatible Platelets in a short period of time?

One other thought....though may not apply; depending on how many units you tried to crossmatch. Was thinking of a cold reactive antibody that was present on the A1 cells but negative on your group O cells (though the chances of it just happenning to be present on the A1 cells and group A units you crossmatched; but not on the group O units you crossmatched; is probably a stretch). But was thinking of something like Anti-Lea??

That is all "my brain can think of" at this point.

Brenda Hutson

comment_54998

Pain in the neck sometimes is IVIG.

Malcolm, I'm impressed.  You appear to be channeling your inner Yoda!  :nod:

 

It can be frustrating to do a lot of workup to discover the problem is reagent related.

comment_55002

Interesting side note to Ortho Gel, I have been picking up a lot of anti-Ms in Orthos reagents lately. If I suspect a fuzzy reaction, I will perform an antibody ID panel with room temp incubation for 30 minutes in the IgG gel card. Amazing how many times this helps explain an unexplainable test result.

Although, this does not appear to be the case here...because of the diluent.

Deanna

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comment_55146

If it hadn't been the diluent, I was thinking of anti Le bH.  But do you use serum in your gel testing?  You really can't get hemolysis as a positive reaction if you are using EDTA plasma as a specimen.

comment_55147

What about serum specimen with AHG monospecific IgG, Can I still have hemolysis as a positive reaction; because I use serum (source of complement)?

Or something else is needed along with the serum?

comment_55148

What about serum specimen with AHG monospecific IgG, Can I still have hemolysis as a positive reaction; because I use serum (source of complement)?

Or something else is needed along with the serum?

Anti-Complement in your antiglobulin reagent.

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comment_55278

Contaminated diluent should have been discovered when running QC

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