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Plasma transfusions
Also, were any of the transfused units antigen positive? This is the quickest way to get a negative indirect antiglobulin test ;).
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Need Advice
Was the patient transfused? If not, hyper hemolysis is less likely. Sounds like mechanical causes are most likely.
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FDA reportable?
Patient should be monitored for a delayed hemolytic transfusion reaction for about 10-14 days, not necessarily in hospital. Most common signs are fever and progressive anemia. sometimes dark urine or jaundice. Patient education before discharge if earlier than this is essential.
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FDA reportable?
No, not an error.
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How to determine if a donor can have a cancer, bleeding conditions, heart and lung conditions
If the donor passes your screening questions and seems clinically fine overall, there is literally no need to worry about these issues, either in terms of donor or recipient safety. The history and physical exam are by far the most important information in evaluation of patients or donors.
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Gel vs tube for DARA patients
Not yet available. Being developed by Grifols. Probably months to a year away from FDA approval. You can contact them about becoming a testing site for licensure I'd guess. Until it's licensed you won't be able to use it in patient care, just research/validation.
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Source of advice on transfusing patients with mismatched stem cell/bone marrow transplants?
Thanks Malcolm. Not pedantry at all. These exceptions are relevant and potentially important, particularly for ABO.
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Source of advice on transfusing patients with mismatched stem cell/bone marrow transplants?
Ideally one avoids infusing plasma containing antibodies to recipient antigen. Of course it’s always a bad idea to transfuse antigen to which the recipient has antibodies. We often forget that after transplant all of the recipient cells except the blood cells and immune cells are of the original phenotype. We often forget that after transplant all of the recipient cells, except the blood cells and immune cells are of the original phenotype. In this case group AB cells might be safest with no incompatible antigen or antibody. Group A would be my next choice and I would wash or plasma reduce to get rid of the anti-B which will interact with the recipients endothelial cells, soluble antigen and all non-hematopoietic cells of the recipient. Some folks would use group O red cells which I think is probably the worst possible choice given the potential anti-A and anti-B. Washing or volume reduction would minimize this risk.
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Giving same group really that necessary
When you have incompatible antigen or antibody, low level hemolysis occurs, probably with complement activation. This is not at levels clinically evident, but inflammation occurs. Inflammation potentiates (increases) B cell activation and provides one mechanism by which ABO non-identical red cell transfusion (without washing) increases rbc alloimmunization to other antigens being presented. It is known to the case, both from clinical observations (referenced in my previous post) and from animal models which provide evidence that the presence of inflammation increases alloimmunization to red cells and other antigens. It's the mechanism by which adjuvants in vaccines increase immunization to microbial antigens in vaccines, by the way. Inflammation. Not a good thing if you are not infected and receiving transfused antigen :). But useful if you are trying to get a beneficial immune response to an antigen.
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Giving same group really that necessary
Whole blood only makes sense for patients with life threatening bleeding. Red cells are safer for patients who have major anemia/minor and/or slow bleeding. Whole blood will put many patients who are not hypovolemic into cardiac failure/pulmonary edema, and are, in general more toxic than red cells alone.
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Giving same group really that necessary
If you need copies of these reprints or have further questions, happy to help.
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Giving same group really that necessary
Perhaps this is one rare physician who actually reads the medical literature on the subject or has thought things through. The history of this is very simple. Based upon the experience of severe or fatal hemolytic transfusion reactions to whole blood, it was discovered that when a patient's ABO type was unknown, and urgent transfusion was life saving, group O was the least likely to result in disaster. When group O red cells became available during the middle of the last century, with modest amounts of plasma left, it was decided by the then experts that this could be used for non-urgent, routine transfusions of all patients. So-called universal donor O red cells. The problem, with the 100% accuracy of hindsight, was that we had no evidence this is was good, much less optimal practice. But it was convenient. It meant blood banks didn't have to stock all 8 Rh and ABO types, so it was good for us in the transfusion service. It wasn't good for patients. Why is that? Well, there is residual incompatible plasma with anti-A and anti-B in all group O red cells that haven't been washed or thoroughly volume depleted. Well, you might ask, and all of us have assumed for decades, that a few dozen milliliters of incompatible plasma is not a big deal. The answer, now known to some extent, is that it is a big deal for some patients who are groups A, AB and probably B. This small residual plasma can on rare occasions cause severe hemolysis. It's 100% severe if it happens to you as a patient. This has been known for decades. What is new is the data that recipients of ABO mismatched red cells (Group O in general) have a higher rate of red cell alloimmunization to other red cell antigens, (Transfusion 2012 Mar;52(3):635-40. doi: 10.1111/j.1537-2995.2011.03329.x; 2025 Mar;65(3):588-603. doi: 10.1111/trf.18135. higher rates of febrile and allergic reactions, (Transfusion 2012 Mar;52(3):635-40.doi: 10.1111/j.1537-2995.2011.03329.x.) higher rates of HLA alloimmunization, and perhaps overall higher rates of mortality (Transfusion. 2016 Mar;56(3):550-7.doi: 10.1111/trf.13376). So, if you are a recipient, you want ABO identical transfusions, or compatible red cells that have had all or almost all of the plasma removed, as by washing, for example.
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Gel vs tube for DARA patients
We have educated our multiple myeloma specialists to send a type and screen before administering the first dose of a daratumumab (Darzalex). Our standard operating procedure is to have a panel of three cord blood cells (we have a large OB service) that is a laboratory developed test of sorts. Cord cells do not express CD38 at interfering levels. As it turns out we have made more of an issue of this than it warrants. Patients who have negative antibody screens essentially never develop new antibodies to red cells after being started on daratumumab probably because it potential inhibits B cells function. Minimal B cell function apparently yields little ability to make antibodies to red cell antigens, which are relatively weak alloantigens, especially when there is no adjuvant or inflammation in the recipient. That said, a manufacturer is making a soluble CD38 analog that will inhibit the anti-CD38 activity and make testing easier from what I've read. DTT treatment is also reasonable. But the good news is that patients on this drug do not make new antibodies. There are literature references to this, and we have probably tested about 500 patients with no new alloantibodies. Mostly non-transfused patients, obviously.
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FDA requirements for 2 people to issue blood products for transfusion.
As far as I know there is no FDA requirement for two people to issue blood. Obviously some hospitals have only one person working night shift in the lab, so that isn't happening realistically. There is a traditional requirement for two people to identify the recipient and the transfused product, but this is only if positive patient identification is not used these days.
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Cooler transport of cold stored platelets (CSP)
Understood, but the most important thing to realize is that minor variations are of no clinical significance when they occur. Dealing with unrealistic or irrational or foolishly rigid accreditation or regulation inspectors is a serious but separate issue :).
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Cooler transport of cold stored platelets (CSP)
The good news is none of this makes any difference to clinical efficacy or safety. These temperatures are almost totally arbitrary and have no scientific basis.
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Vitalant as blood supplier - low yield and compensated donor platelets
For those interested in how bleeding should be treated and bleeding risk assessed, here is a 25 minutes powerpoint lecture on the topic. https://www.vumedi.com/video/evaluation-and-management-of-the-bleeding-patient-and-the-patient-at-risk-of-bleeding/ For those who would like further explanation on how we got the benefits and risks of platelet transfusion very wrong, this is a 25 minute YouTube video on the subject.
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Vitalant as blood supplier - low yield and compensated donor platelets
This is operationally difficult as there are all sorts of guidelines in the literature, many from professional societies recommending platelet transfusion at different platelet counts for surgery and invasive procedures. It's hard for practitioners to ignore these, for medicolegal reasons, and instead, practice what we now know is better medicine (no transfusion in most patients). I've been involved with thrombocytopenic patients and their treatment for 50 years. I'm here to tell you that, regrettably, existing expert opinion and platelet count based guidelines are almost total scientific and clinical nonsense. Strong words, but driven by recent, actual data and extensive clinical experience and research. How should we evaluate the risk of bleeding in patients undergoing surgery? It isn't the laboratory tests, although they can be useful when there is evidence from the history and physical exam that there is a hemostatic problem. Patients whose skin and mouth show no evidence of bleeding/purpura/petechia, and have no personal or family history of bleeding problems, almost never bleed unless something goes wrong during the procedure. Indeed, the bleeding rate for many high risk procedures (liver biopsy, kidney biopsy, etc.) is very low in terms of patients who need an intervention such as transfusion, surgery, etc. So we are treating 100% of patients with plasma or platelets or both in the vain hope of preventing bleeding, which happens in perhaps 1, 5 or 10% of patients or fewer. This is sub-optimal medicine, as platelet transfusion (and plasma transfusion) are high risk therapies that can, in rare instances, kill patients. Transfusion should be driven by actual bleeding and timely hemostatic evaluation (mostly things like TEG, ROTEM, Quantra with occasionally useful tests such as PT, PTT, fibrinogen, platelet count, platelet function testing such as closure time, factor XIII level). Prophylactic transfusion in this setting is unnecessary and unlikely to help, and very likely to harm. Don't do it is my advice, despite the guidelines, which have no evidence base whatever and represent a tragic, well intentioned misunderstanding of hemostasis and transfusion efficacy and safety. So what this means for half doses of platelets is that they can be used in almost everyone with equal efficacy and reduced risk of harm. We do this all the time for the last few years, and have bleeding rates that are far below those in the literature because we use only ABO identical platelets. ABO mismatched platelets actually increase rather than prevent or treat bleeding. Our bleeding rate in prophylactic transfusions is <5% compared with 70% in the PLADO study where ABO was ignored. Using ABO identical platelets reduces platelet needs in typical hematologic patients by 50% thus increasing the platelet supply overall. Prophylactic transfusion at counts <10,000 represent the only evidence based use of platelets, in general. Prophylactic use prior to paracentesis, colonoscopy, minor surgery, etc. is almost certainly of no benefit in the vast majority of patients, and leads to harm due to volume effects (250 ml of plasma increases vascular pressure) and inflammation due to the platelets themselves. References on request.
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Vitalant as blood supplier - low yield and compensated donor platelets
We routinely use half dose of apheresis platelets as our standard therapy. Approved by our medical staff overall. Less toxicity, lower cost, equal efficacy. What do you believe you need to do other than having a separate code?
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Acute Transfusion Reaction
Makes no sense to me if that's true. Hemolytic reactions have always been in a special category because they were the most common cause of acute life threatening signs and symptoms. Perhaps that's why. Then again, most professional societies and hematology/transfusion medicine textbooks/reviews completely ignore the most common serious post-transfusion toxicities. This is perhaps because there is an expert opinion (dogma) driven belief that thrombosis, infection and inflammation, sepsis and organ failure occurring more than 4-6 hours after transfusion could not possibly be due to transfusion. Wrong, but a deeply held belief based upon decades old methodologically fatally flawed meta-analyses of randomized trials which told people what they hoped was true :).
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Eluate in the Laboratory Diagnosis of Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia
Agree that in “not recently transfused”patients, eluates are of no clinical use unless you like seeing panagglutinins.😜 Negative eluates occur in some drug dependent examples but the clinical information is paramount in such situations in any case.
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Cold Stored Platelets -interpreting FDA guidance
I think you do what is practical in your setting. There is no evidence one way or the other for prophylactic use of cold vs. room temp platelets in terms of actual bleeding prevention. Platelet count increments were the metric used, and we now know that platelet count is a relatively minor contributor to bleeding at counts much above 5-10,000/µl. So we're all operating based upon "expert" (often wrong) opinion, not actual data. In general, at platelet counts above 10,000/µl there is virtually no evidence of benefit for platelet transfusion and plenty of evidence of harm (particularly if not ABO identical). So the best clinical decision is often to postpone or eschew transfusion in my view. The long standing view that transfusion is almost always better than no transfusion is tragically wrong.
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FDA Registration
If the infusion center is part of the hospital and served by the hospital transfusion service, they do not need a separate FDA registration because they are not a transfusion service. The FDA does not regulate nor inspect infusion centers. They regulate and inspect transfusion services and blood banks. Provision of products to an infusion center would not require FDA registration per se. That is determined by what services you provide overall.
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Whole Blood
If the donor antibody screen is negative then the unit does not need to be labeled. Otherwise it does.
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Whole Blood
"Just to make sure I've understood, even if a patient just got their total plasma volume replaced with Group O albeit Low titer plasma, we should switch all products to their blood type the second we get a result?" Yes. Even after a one volume blood exchange 30-40% or more of the original red cells (recipient type) are still there, and more will be made during the recovery from anemia. So giving the patient's own red cell type is almost certainly better than infusing more anti-A and anti-B antibody via O red cells to A, B and AB patients. (I am also curious what you think of blood centers labeling red cells from antibody positive units as regular red cells and don't treat them as antibody positive units needing a minor crossmatch. The blood center claims that the Additive Solutions dilute the titer "enough." I admit I haven't looked for any research on this yet. I don't know if they titer the supernatant or what to prove this. I think this is irresponsible and scientifically indefensible, if I understand you. Also against FDA regs as the product is misbranded if the known antibody present is not identified on the label. The remark about additive solutions is totally without merit and once again, irresponsible. There are no data to support this approach. I don't want to be infusing anti-X antibody (that I don't know about) to a patient who might be X positive. Makes no sense and one would be crucified in a court of law.