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Patient blood group is A Rh D positive and antibody screen negative. Set up 4 units of A Pos unit and found to be incompatible. Then we set up 3 A Rh D negative units and found to be incompatible.  Therefore panel was set up and found to negative in all cell line.  We set-up 4 unit O Rh D negative and found to be COMPATIBLE.  However DAT is positive in IgG 2+. But why was cross match was incompatible in A red cell but COMPATIBLE with O red cell. 

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  • Might be a rare IgG anti-A1 - you may not see in in the Reverse (presumably IS or buffer-only gel card), but is detected when you do anything with an antiglogulin reagent. You could try doing the Reve

  • The patient's DAT is positive, right?  Has the patient received ABO incompatible platelets lately?  Or received Immunoglobulin therapy (gamma globulins)?  I have seen both of those scenarios cause inc

  • This doesn't fit the pattern for an antibody to a low incidence antigen - in this case, all 7 group A units are incompatible and the 4 group O units are compatible.

comment_72873

Could be an anti A1 but curious as to why this did not show up in reverse type?    Also, what type of crossmatches are you doing?   Immediate spin?

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No problem in reverse group. Negative with A1 cell and 3+ reaction in B cell. We used IAT techniques for all our X match .

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Might be a rare IgG anti-A1 - you may not see in in the Reverse (presumably IS or buffer-only gel card), but is detected when you do anything with an antiglogulin reagent. You could try doing the Reverse by IAT. The DAT may just be a red herring, but it might represent a weird autoantibody that favors group A cells.

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The patient's DAT is positive, right?  Has the patient received ABO incompatible platelets lately?  Or received Immunoglobulin therapy (gamma globulins)?  I have seen both of those scenarios cause incompatibilities with the patient's own type.  Could be either Anti-A or Anti-A,B from O platelets or the gamma globulin therapy.  

comment_72904
9 hours ago, BldBnker said:

The patient's DAT is positive, right?  Has the patient received ABO incompatible platelets lately?  Or received Immunoglobulin therapy (gamma globulins)?  I have seen both of those scenarios cause incompatibilities with the patient's own type.  Could be either Anti-A or Anti-A,B from O platelets or the gamma globulin therapy.  

Good thinking. Might be interesting to see if there's anything in an eluate....

comment_72906

Have you looked into the possibility of patient having  low incident antibody?   Low incident antibody are  usually picked up during crossmatch.

 

comment_72909
1 hour ago, cheru26 said:

Have you looked into the possibility of patient having  low incident antibody?   Low incident antibody are  usually picked up during crossmatch.

 

This doesn't fit the pattern for an antibody to a low incidence antigen - in this case, all 7 group A units are incompatible and the 4 group O units are compatible.

comment_72910
On 3/21/2018 at 7:08 AM, gagpinks said:

Hi

Patient blood group is A Rh D positive and antibody screen negative. Set up 4 units of A Pos unit and found to be incompatible. Then we set up 3 A Rh D negative units and found to be incompatible.  Therefore panel was set up and found to negative in all cell line.  We set-up 4 unit O Rh D negative and found to be COMPATIBLE.  However DAT is positive in IgG 2+. But why was cross match was incompatible in A red cell but COMPATIBLE with O red cell. 

On another track......why the switch to Rh-negative units ?

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We did 4 A Rh D negative and they all were compatible.  Waiting for eluate result.  Patient had 1 B neg platelet. 

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comment_72914
9 minutes ago, gagpinks said:

We did 4 A Rh D negative and they all were compatible.  Waiting for eluate result.  Patient had 1 B neg platelet. 

That conflicts with you original post: "Set up 4 units of A Pos unit and found to be incompatible. Then we set up 3 A Rh D negative units and found to be incompatible."

I'm confused.

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