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Does anyone perform what is called IgG Blocking on a patient with a strong +DAT? I just wanted to get some info on this and see if it is something worth trying or implementing.  I think some IRLs  in US may use this technique but not sure how well it is accepted and how well it works.

 

 

Thanks,

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  • David Saikin
    David Saikin

    You could also try W.A.R.M.  I just use that to destroy Kell system ags but it is made to remove autoab so you can type cells.

  • I had never heard of it either until after attending a SCAB conference a few months ago.  Apparently you can add Combs AHG (IgG) to bind to the antibodies that are causing a positive DAT.   This will

  • Malcolm Needs
    Malcolm Needs

    Sounds a bit dodgy to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

comment_51469

We certainly don't in my own Reference Laboratory. We send such samples to the IBGRL for genotyping - but I fully realise that, in the UK, we are extremely lucky, because we don't get charged for this.

comment_51470

Having said that, we will, on occasion, try treating the red cells with Choroquine.

comment_51472

 You could also try W.A.R.M.  I just use that to destroy Kell system ags but it is made to remove autoab so you can type cells.

comment_51493

We use EGA or do genotyping.

 

How does these 'blocking' works?

 

I have also heard about IgG monoclonals from mouse, and by the use of anti Mouse-IgG (instead of anti Human-IgG) they gave good results.

 

 

David, W.A.R.M. is the comercial name of ZZAP (or not?), if it is the same as ZZAP then you destroy more than Kell (also Fy, MNS, Lu).

 

Peter

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I had never heard of it either until after attending a SCAB conference a few months ago.  Apparently you can add Combs AHG (IgG) to bind to the antibodies that are causing a positive DAT.   This will then block those antibodies from reacting when phenotyping a patient through the AHG phase. How or why this doesn't block the antigen when phenotyping I do not know? But I was told it doesn't.  I was also told this technique is mainly used for those patients with a strong postive DAT, where the DAT is still reacting after treatment with EGA.

 

Thanks,

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I had never heard of it either until after attending a SCAB conference a few months ago.  Apparently you can add Combs AHG (IgG) to bind to the antibodies that are causing a positive DAT.   This will then block those antibodies from reacting when phenotyping a patient through the AHG phase. How or why this doesn't block the antigen when phenotyping I do not know? But I was told it doesn't.  I was also told this technique is mainly used for those patients with a strong postive DAT, where the DAT is still reacting after treatment with EGA.

 

Thanks,

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comment_51508

Sounds a bit dodgy to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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comment_51524

Maybe they use anti human IgG Fab fragment that bind to the bound IgG. If you then add anti Fya and after washing complete anti human IgG. That sounds like something that could work.

 

Peter

comment_51548

I've used this technique successfully in detales see the article:

 

"A quick and simple method for phenotyping IgG-sensitized red blood cells
T.S. SERERAT, D. VEIDT, AND A. DUTCHED
Positive (IgG) direct antiglobulin test (DAT) reactivity ranging from weakly positive to 2+ can be eliminated using a simple “blocking” technique with anti-IgG. This method can be used for antigen typing DAT-positive red blood cells that require the antiglobulin technique. Immunohematology 2000;16:154–156."
comment_51549

I'll give it a try!  Thank you!

comment_51599

There is an excellent article in Immunohematology, Vol 16, #4,2000 that decribes

the validation of this procedure by the ARC in Columbus, OH.  It compard 26 samples

using IgG blocking, glycine acid EDTA, and chloroquine diphosphate treated red

blood cells in typing for s,S,Fya,Fyb,Jka, and Jkb.  The procedure works well with

samples that have a w+ to 2+ DAT.  One sample tested Fyb+ with the blocking method

and Fyb- with chloroquine and glycine acid EDTA treated cells.  I remember reading in

the insert that chloroquine diphosphate treatment of red cells can weaken the Fyb antigen.

 

 

 

comment_51610

IgG blocking study was performed by C.Wong at CarterBloodCare in 2001. It was published as an abstract in Transfusion. The reference is "Evaluation of a Method to Prepare IgG-Sensitized Red Blood Cells for Phenotyping" 2001- Vol.41, Supplimen:110S 

Outline steps are:

1. Wash red cells to be treated 3 times with isotonic saline

2. After the last wash resuspend the red cells to 3-5%

3. In a separate tube add 20 drops of the washed red cells

4. Centrifuge 1 min

5. Remove and discard supernatant, be careful not to disturb the red cells

6. Add 20 drops of IgG to the cells button

7. Incubate at room temperature for 15-30 minutes

8. Centifuge for 30 sec

9. Remove supernatant

10. Wash at least 4 times with isotonic saline

11. Perform IgG DAT on washed,treated cells. Be sure to include a 6% albumin control to verify the immunoglobulin coating has been removed.

If the DAT is negative the cells are ready for typing.

If the DAT is positive repeat the treatment. No more than three times.

*This procedure works best for initial DATs no stronger than 2+

**This procedure can be used on EGA treated cells.

***This method peserves the KELL system antigens if used with non EGA treated cells.

If you have any questions please email me at dwebber@carterbloodcare.org

 

 

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