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Wondering what everyone's Blood Bank procedures are for when a Trauma rolls in, what is current standard practice. We are a level 2 trauma center.

We currently emergency release two units on every Trauma Priority 1 and 2 that comes in the door. This has proven to be a huge waste of time and resources, (we need a T&S and usually a retype on these folks so that we can perform the XM in Safetrace) but our ER and/or Trauma docs (not sure which ones) insist on this. We have been collecting data to show that only a fraction of these patients receive blood, (usually the trauma 1's or a patient who progressed to and MTP ANYways) to hopefully move to only emergency issuing units on Trauma 1's, or even moving to a "we set up emergent units if you call the BB requesting them" kind of policy.

We would like to have an emergency fridge down in the ED but this will not happen for the foreseeable future, and in the meantime we have set up blood needlessly on 15 patients in the past 10 days alone!

I have also calculated the cost to a patient for a T&S, retype, and 2 electronic XM's. If I was a patient that was called as a trauma 2 and then downgraded to a 3 almost as soon as I got here I would not be happy about paying almost a grand for a bunch of totally unnecessary testing. I would say we are lucky at this point for not coming under fire for this policy from a billing/ethics perspective.

What are some thoughts on how we can resolve this while placating the docs / what are some policies other trauma centers have in place and is there a current standard of practice we can show our docs to help them see? I tried searching Uptodate and wasn't able to find much about this general of a situation. Of course, we provide blood FAST when it is really needed.

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We switched to emergency issuing 2 units of plasma, not RBCs on our "full traumas".  That helps a lot.  We also don't do the XM on any emergency issued RBC unit that gets returned.  They usually order a T&S on these patients so that isn't a problem. We are also on SafeTrace.   I have found some articles supporting this.

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