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Applied Blood Group Serology, 4th edition,by Issitt and Anstee


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Oh, goodness me, yes, George!  George, together with Geoff and Dave Anstee, had/have an incredible and uncanny ability to start a lecture on an exceedingly complex subject, and then adjust their delivery "on the hoof" so that everyone in the audience is able to understand the subject - but this is before anyone has actually asked any questions.  As I say, it is uncanny, and I am SO jealous of this ability!!!

Yes, there was a joint symposium to celebrate Geoff and Marion Scott's retirement (I put a load of photographs on this site somewhere, but I'm not sure where; Cliff would be able to help), and I was lucky enough to be invited  There were so many "names" present, either in the audience (e.g. Patricia Tippett) or lecturing (invidious to choose anybody, but, for example, Connie Westhoff) that I was like a kid in a candy shop (even at my advanced old age!!!!!!).

I was initially thinking of a poll on this site, but I think that your suggestion of a poll at the AABB is much superior, and I wonder if we could run a poll at BBTS over this side of the pond (if they will allow such a thing).  The trouble is timing from my point-of-view.  As of tomorrow, I am in Wales for just over a fortnight, and by the time I get back, BBTS will almost be upon us, but I'll see what I can do.  There are also ISBT symposia/congresses that may be useful.  If there is no real hurry about this, I could easily get something put into the BBTS Journal "Blood" (not Transfusion Medicine" - that would cost a fortune, and I'm not certain that the Editor Dave Roberts, would allow that anyway).

Shall we see how we go from there as far as suggestions are concerned?

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Works for me. I'll talk to Laurie Munk at AABB and see if there's a good way to get the word out about a sign-up sheet. And make sure I'm not breaking any association rules..

I hadn't heard about Marion Scott retiring!! I was talking to Jill Storry last week and she told me about attending  Geoff's party. It is frightening - everyone I trained with has retired. Of course, a lot of the Canadians could bail at 55 so that's not fair :) I feel like a dinosaur at AABB. So many new faces!

Will keep you posted as I get information

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15 hours ago, dragonlady97213 said:

I'm jealous.  You two know all the rock stars.  :shakefist:

Just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. I'm getting ready to bail and Malcolm has retired so just think of all the stuff that is going to happen that you'll see and we'll just audit. Get out to the meetings if you can and talk to the speakers. It's an interesting time to be in this field :)

 

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17 minutes ago, macarton said:

You might try Abe's books.  I've gotten several used books from them.  I bought 4 micro books and was less than $10 w/o shipping.

I've got mine with both signatures safe and sound :) The original sold for around $350USD so I can't imagine anyone dropping under that for a used version when they know there's a market.

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4 minutes ago, Malcolm Needs said:

Hey there!  Not retired yet!  I go on 31st October this year (but I intend to carry on lecturing and things like that for a while).

Sorry sweetie! I thought you were already in consulting mode :) I never thought you'd abandon us. I certainly won't. I'm not sure about assessing but I'll keep up the lecturing, editing, meetings and fun stuff. I've not set a date yet but it will definitely be in the next 5 yrs. Sooner if health limits me but I 'm working on that.

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I have a copy of Applied Blood Group Serology 2nd edition July 1975 (way out of date -historical novelty?)   looking for a good home. This the one given out to customers by Spectra Biologicals. Anyone remember them?

I also have a 3rd edition (1984), also out of date, looking for a home.

If no one wants them they will go in the recycle bin.:trash:

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By all means Tricore, please drop them off at your local used books rather than trashing them. I've got the older versions in the library here so I don't need them. They can still be useful reference sources for folks just starting out in Serology. And they are not likely to cause the hernia Peter thought might result from lugging the fourth edition around. :)

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On 8/20/2016 at 8:50 AM, tricore said:

I have a copy of Applied Blood Group Serology 2nd edition July 1975 (way out of date -historical novelty?)   looking for a good home. This the one given out to customers by Spectra Biologicals. Anyone remember them?

I also have a 3rd edition (1984), also out of date, looking for a home.

If no one wants them they will go in the recycle bin.:trash:

I would like me a third ed if it were to go in recycle. Is it still available? 

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On 8/4/2016 at 9:15 AM, Pony said:

Works for me. I'll talk to Laurie Munk at AABB and see if there's a good way to get the word out about a sign-up sheet. And make sure I'm not breaking any association rules..

I hadn't heard about Marion Scott retiring!! I was talking to Jill Storry last week and she told me about attending  Geoff's party. It is frightening - everyone I trained with has retired. Of course, a lot of the Canadians could bail at 55 so that's not fair :) I feel like a dinosaur at AABB. So many new faces!

Will keep you posted as I get information

Hello, Unfortunately, I could not make it to AABB meeting last year. Any update on this? I can say that our lab alone here would want 10+ copies here. Please let me know if you would like to make up an online survey or poll sheet that a link can be shared around. Also, would that be helpful if I ask sale specialists from commercial blood bank supplies on site here about sponsoring for the printing. Would you mind giving me some details about how to go about it? 

"Books created after Jan. 1, 1978, regardless of whether they’ve been published, are protected by copyright for the life of the author plus 70 years. Some books that are works-for-hire, i.e., created in the scope of employment, or that are created anonymously or pseudonymously are protected for 95 years from the date the work was created or 120 years from the date it was published, whichever is shorter. The law on copyright duration has been amended many times and determining whether an older book is still protected by copyright is more difficult. However, any book published prior to 1923 is currently in the public domain. Works published prior to Mar. 1, 1989, without any notice of copyright are also in the public domain, because the law required notice on all works published before that date." 

Does it mean reprinting this book is out of question? 

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Good news if anyone is still looking for a copy! :clap:

AABB Press will republish the fourth edition of Applied Blood Group Serology, the influential reference book for blood bankers last published in 1998. This landmark publication is widely considered to be one of the most influential books for professionals in transfusion medicine and continues to be used as a reference for blood bankers throughout the world. 

AABB, in partnership with authors Peter Issitt, PhD; and David Anstee, PhD, will reissue the fourth edition prior the 2019 AABB Annual Meeting for a limited time only. 

Annual Meeting attendees may preorder Applied Blood Group Serology by contacting AABB Member Services (+1.866.222.2498) before Oct. 4. Those who purchase the publication prior to Oct. 4 will be able to pick up their orders during the Annual Meeting, to be held Oct. 19-22 in San Antonio. After Oct. 4, the publication will be available for the public to order. The publication will also be for sale in the AABB Bookstore during the 2019 Annual Meeting.

 To celebrate the rerelease of the book, AABB has added a special book-signing event at the meeting. Issitt and Anstee will participate in two book-signing sessions on Sunday and Monday afternoons from noon to 2:30 pm. The book-signing will take place in an area near the bookstore at AABB Central. Additionally, the upcoming October issue of AABB News includes an interview with Issitt. 

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1 hour ago, DPruden said:

Good news if anyone is still looking for a copy! :clap:

AABB Press will republish the fourth edition of Applied Blood Group Serology, the influential reference book for blood bankers last published in 1998. This landmark publication is widely considered to be one of the most influential books for professionals in transfusion medicine and continues to be used as a reference for blood bankers throughout the world. 

AABB, in partnership with authors Peter Issitt, PhD; and David Anstee, PhD, will reissue the fourth edition prior the 2019 AABB Annual Meeting for a limited time only. 

Annual Meeting attendees may preorder Applied Blood Group Serology by contacting AABB Member Services (+1.866.222.2498) before Oct. 4. Those who purchase the publication prior to Oct. 4 will be able to pick up their orders during the Annual Meeting, to be held Oct. 19-22 in San Antonio. After Oct. 4, the publication will be available for the public to order. The publication will also be for sale in the AABB Bookstore during the 2019 Annual Meeting.

 To celebrate the rerelease of the book, AABB has added a special book-signing event at the meeting. Issitt and Anstee will participate in two book-signing sessions on Sunday and Monday afternoons from noon to 2:30 pm. The book-signing will take place in an area near the bookstore at AABB Central. Additionally, the upcoming October issue of AABB News includes an interview with Issitt. 

While, as a blood group serology nerd, I think this is GREAT, I think people should be aware that this is now very dated in terms of knowledge, particularly in terms of blood group antigens, blood group serological techniques and molecular techniques.

SORRY TO SOUND LIKE A PARTY POOPER!

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30 minutes ago, Malcolm Needs said:

While, as a blood group serology nerd, I think this is GREAT, I think people should be aware that this is now very dated in terms of knowledge, particularly in terms of blood group antigens, blood group serological techniques and molecular techniques.

SORRY TO SOUND LIKE A PARTY POOPER!

I know!  But I still want a copy :wub:

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While our knowledge of the molecular structure of blood group antigens has certainly advanced during the last 20-25 years, our clinical practices have not changed much, if at all.  The clinically significant antibodies are still clinically significant and those that rarely cause hemolytic reactions or HDN still are of little concern ;).  While gel and other technologies have fostered automation, tube testing is still the cheapest, fastest, most appropriate methodology in my view for many clinical situations.  I'm interested in hearing opinions as to what truly clinically relevant things have changed since the 4th edition.  I cannot think of any at the moment, but I'm getting old.  We still aren't certain what the molecular findings in the Rh system mean for clinical practice in my view.

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I have to agree with an awful lot of what you say Neil.  In fact, your words made me go back to reading parts of Race RR and Sanger R,  Blood Groups in Man.  6th Edition, 1975, Blackwell Scientific Publications, with reference to the first sentence in the Preface to the Sixth Edition, which reads, "Here is the last edition of this book: the subject has grown to need more than our two pencils.", followed by 639 pages full of wisdom.  However, for someone who was just starting out in a life of Reference work, on page 15, there was a short paragraph that I remember left me a little deflated, which was entitled, "THE LAST FIFTY YEARS.", which read, "We sometimes wonder whether since 1911, or say 1925 to take in Bernstein, the only contributions of the first magnitude to the (ABO) system are to be found in the biochemical work on the "Bombay" phenotype; and in the recognition of the cis AB phenomenon and, perhaps, on a more practical level, the finding of specific agglutinins in extracts of seeds and snails."

That having been said, when Issitt PD, Anstee DJ.  Applied Blood Group Serology.  4th edition, 1998, Montgomery Scientific Publications, although recognising that this included chapters on subjects not covered by Rob Race and Ruth Sanger, such as The Principles of Serological Methods, the number of pages had expanded to 1198!  At this stage, there were far fewer systems than there are recognised now (we are up to nearly 40) and certainly far fewer antigens (we are now well over 600).

There are, however, some changes that have been made since then that have impinged on your clinical practices that are, possibly, so subtle that they may be easily overlooked.  We are, for example, much more aware of the dangers of over-transfusion, with the recognition of such conditions as transfusion-associated circulatory overload (TACO), which was often misdiagnosed as adult respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) in the past, and the recognition that transfusion-related acute lung injury (TRALI) can, largely (not entirely, but largely), be avoided by the use of male donor-derived plasma components.  There are things though, including things within the ABO Blood Group System that have come to the fore since the publication of Issitt and Anstee.  One thing that springs immediately to mind is the fact that renal transplants across the A2 to O barrier are almost routine.  This is because of the better understanding of immunosuppression by the use of IVIgG and extra-corporeal immunoadsorption and monoclonal antibodies, such as Rituximab.  This, in turn, has allowed us to better understand the phenomenon of accommodation.

We are now also on the cusp of providing "bespoke" units of blood to certain patients.  Here, I am thinking of sickle cell patients with, for example, anti-hrB (or other anti-e-like specificities).  At present, we rely largely on the fact that such antibodies are rarely implicated in clinically-significant haemolytic transfusion reactions.  As a result, we almost always give such patients E-, e+ units of blood, however, the red cells do not stay in the circulation as long as they should (apoptosis happening earlier than the average 120 +/- 10 days because of immune reactions).  This leads to shorter intervals between transfusions, possibly leading to iron overload, but certainly leading to longer bed occupancy (VERY EXPENSIVE).  Now, because we understand much more about the genes involved, we can perform molecular techniques by probing (rather than performing complete gene sequencing) the genes of the donors, so that the recipients either do not produce these antibodies in the first place, or, if they already have, making sure that the transfused red cells "last" a lot longer.

There are other examples, but my evening meal is ready, and my wife can be vicious if I let it spoil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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