AMcCord Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 AS a Reference Laboratory person (and, I hope, a friend through this website), I think that the idea of a super DAT, as discussed above, sounds a load of c**p to me.(Malcolm, you are indeed a friend through this website and) I agree with "c**p" 100%. I would really like to ask some of these folks just what it is they hope to gain for the treatment of their patients. If they think the patient is hemolyzing and all the chemistry tests say the patient is hemolyzing, they are going to treat the patient accordingly, irregardless of what the DAT result is. Why waste precious time and resources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L106 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 AS a Reference Laboratory person (and, I hope, a friend through this website), I think that the idea of a super DAT, as discussed above, sounds a load of c**p to me.We're going to have to work together to try to help Malcolm come out of his shell!Seriously, (once again!), I totally agree with you, Malcolm.Donna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstruik Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The answer, my friends, if not blowing in the (furtive ?) wind is available on this very web site - see the linked threads : there is one from some time ago called 'Super DATs' (like ordinary RBC but they wear their antibodies on the outside .....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Needs ☆ Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 We're going to have to work together to try to help Malcolm come out of his shell!Seriously, (once again!), I totally agree with you, Malcolm.DonnaI've always been the shy, retiring type Donna!!!!!!!!!:haha::haha: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profbaud Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Does anyone out there have an SOP for super DATs? We are going to try to bring it inhouse rather then send them out since they are pretty simple (at least I heard). ANy help would be great!I know the American Red Cross in St. Louis MO does super DATs. I will get their number for you to call them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albaugh Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Just last week, we had 2 requests for this test. Makes me think there was a journal article published recently! We send ours to Blood Center of Wisconsin, ph. (800)245-3117 ext. 6250. On their website, www.bcw.edu, is a short paper describing the test (no SOP, unfortunately) with references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMB4879 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 I too am wondering the purpose, we typically due our DAT in the gel, tubes every once in a while (using Immucor reagents), very rare. If we get this request we send it off. Not too many, only a couple in the last few years. Never had them come up positive using the "super" method. We are just trying to do a little study to see if the DAT vs. the Super DAT vs. Gel method...any difference or a waste of money/time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMcCord Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Just last week, we had 2 requests for this test. Makes me think there was a journal article published recently! We send ours to Blood Center of Wisconsin, ph. (800)245-3117 ext. 6250. On their website, www.bcw.edu, is a short paper describing the test (no SOP, unfortunately) with references.I took a quick look on the BCW website, but didn't spot the paper. Can you provide more info about where to find it on the website. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMB4879 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Here is the BCW info, http://www.bcw.edu/ucmro/groups/public/documents/documents/000486.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMcCord Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Here is the BCW info, http://www.bcw.edu/ucmro/groups/public/documents/documents/000486.pdfThanks! I'm going to check out some of the references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstruik Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 The answer lies at the bottom of the screen (computer, not antibody_ - scroll down to 'similar threads' and you will find a 'Super DAT' thread from 2006.(ie I had never heard of it either) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Needs ☆ Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Well, I've read the thread below Peter, and I still stay with my comments above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Jeff Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Well, I've read the thread below Peter, and I still stay with my comments above!I have also read the thread from 2006, and whilst I don't confess to being an expert I have always been led to believe that DAT's using column technology are very sensitive so what's the point of a super DAT? Like Peter I had never heard of this test, clearly it is not a UK term.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profbaud Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Does anyone out there have an SOP for super DATs? We are going to try to bring it inhouse rather then send them out since they are pretty simple (at least I heard). ANy help would be great!The American Red Cross does them in St. Louis. Call the reference lab at 314-658-2084. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Needs ☆ Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I have also read the thread from 2006, and whilst I don't confess to being an expert I have always been led to believe that DAT's using column technology are very sensitive so what's the point of a super DAT? Like Peter I had never heard of this test, clearly it is not a UK term.SteveToo right Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy agglutinates Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 The description gives 3 reasons for requesting a 'Super Coombs'. For what it is worth here are my opinions...Reason 1: A medic should not need a positive DAT to confirm AIHA!Reason 2: Repeat your DAT using unwashed patient cells (it's not rocket science is it?)Reason 3: Use monoclonal reagents that will directly detect IgA & IgM (i.e. anti-IgA & anti-IgM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelareflab Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Some physicians still call them supercoombs or super DAT's when they call ( and occasionally polygreen), but we perform them at our reference lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahalim Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 :cool::cool::cool:very nice one yes, what is a super dat????????????????????When i was younger (a lot younger), i remember going on a few super dates, but i've never heard of a super dat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGLOVER Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I had an order for a super DAT once. Sent it out and if I recall correctly what they did was a gel DAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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