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Is it illegal to lie about your genomic blood type?


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Is it illegal to lie about your genomic blood type?   

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  1. 1. Is it illegal to lie about your genomic blood type?

    • Yes, it is illegal.
    • No, it is not illegal.
    • If it is not illegal, it should be.

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For instance, take a caucasian man and his wife. Both type as O Positive, but the wife gave birth to an A positive baby.

The wife claims it is because she has Bombay. By genotype she is a Group A but serologically she types as O positive. 

She refuse to consent to DNA testing. If she is lying, can she be charged with a crime? 

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4 hours ago, Malcolm Needs said:

If necessary, I am prepared to justify vote.  I hope you are willing to justify your (or the wife's) incorrect nomenclature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol is it genomic? Or genotype?  What would you call it Malcolm? 

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It is all over the place, to be honest.

It is Caucasian, rather than caucasian,  It is group O, D Positive, and group A, D Positive, rather than either group O Positive or group A Positive (see the early editions of Peter Issitt's book).

It is Oh (with a subscript "h"), and not "Bombay".  The FUT1 gene, or, rather, the lack of a functional gene through various different genetic mutations, leads to the "Oh" phenotype, but this should NOT be called the "Bombay phenotype".  Although this phenotype was first described by Bhende YM, Deshpande CK, Bhatia HM, Sanger R, Race RR, Morgan WTJ, Watkins WM.  A “new” blood-group character related to the ABO system.  Lancet 1952; i: 903-904.  DOI:  10.1016/S0140-6736(52)92356-8, Another example of the Oh phenotype can be seen in the rare recessive condition, Leukocyte Adhesion Deficiency Type II where, to all intents and purposes, the patient will have a normal H gene, and yet the red cells are of the Oh phenotype, and anti-H can be found in the plasma. the phenotype has been identified in many different parts of the world (and is not just confined to mutations in India or even Asia (Hidalgo A, Ma S, Peired AJ, Weiss LA, Cunningham-Rundles C, Frenette PS.  Insights into leukocyte adhesion deficiency type 2 from a novel mutation in the GDP-fucose transporter gene.  Blood 2003; 101: 1705-1712.  DOI: 10.1182/blood-2002-09-2840).

The other thing is, of course, that "Bombay" no longer exists - it is now Mumbai!

I APOLOGISE FOR BEING A COMPLETE PEDANT!

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31 minutes ago, Malcolm Needs said:

It is all over the place, to be honest.

It is Caucasian, rather than caucasian,  It is group O, D Positive, and group A, D Positive, rather than either group O Positive or group A Positive (see the early editions of Peter Issitt's book).

It is Oh (with a subscript "h"), and not "Bombay".  The FUT1 gene, or, rather, the lack of a functional gene through various different genetic mutations, leads to the "Oh" phenotype, but this should NOT be called the "Bombay phenotype".  Although this phenotype was first described by Bhende YM, Deshpande CK, Bhatia HM, Sanger R, Race RR, Morgan WTJ, Watkins WM.  A “new” blood-group character related to the ABO system.  Lancet 1952; i: 903-904.  DOI:  10.1016/S0140-6736(52)92356-8, Another example of the Oh phenotype can be seen in the rare recessive condition, Leukocyte Adhesion Deficiency Type II where, to all intents and purposes, the patient will have a normal H gene, and yet the red cells are of the Oh phenotype, and anti-H can be found in the plasma. the phenotype has been identified in many different parts of the world (and is not just confined to mutations in India or even Asia (Hidalgo A, Ma S, Peired AJ, Weiss LA, Cunningham-Rundles C, Frenette PS.  Insights into leukocyte adhesion deficiency type 2 from a novel mutation in the GDP-fucose transporter gene.  Blood 2003; 101: 1705-1712.  DOI: 10.1182/blood-2002-09-2840).

The other thing is, of course, that "Bombay" no longer exists - it is now Mumbai!

I APOLOGISE FOR BEING A COMPLETE PEDANT!

No need for apology. Your input is great appreciated Malcolm. Thank you! 

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