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  1. 2 hours ago, Kelly Guenthner said:

    We're still rockin' this original setup on our single combined Ortho Workstation.  It's trash, but it works.  :unsure:

    If/when it's time to replace our 2 old separate setups, we will try to source an alternative.

    Ortho.jpg

    My old lab used to do something similar! Just a dummy slide with the probe wedged in the well and putty sealing around the opening. 

    For those wondering if a thermometer will fit -- there are some that do, and the wiring threads out under the cover using a small notch :lol:

  2. My lab has been dealing with a broken micro-capillary reader for too long, and I've been looking at trying to find a replacement/alternative that isn't found on eBay.

    We currently have the beloved wheel and centrifuge combo by Damon/IEC Division, but they unfortunately stopped manufacturing these.

    What does your lab currently use?

    Damon IEC Micro-Capillary Reader | eBay

     

  3. On 10/1/2020 at 9:26 AM, David Saikin said:

    Even though computerized you should have a backup system that allows you to identify previously encountered patients.  How will you know if there is a patient w special needs (irradiated, CMV=, etal).  Some places have a dedicated laptop which updates w patient info; I use paper records.

    Similar to the laptop, we have an isolated computer seemingly "off-network" that has scheduled backups of patient information. Within our workflow, we're required to check it multiple times a day by seeing if a new patient record entered the system after testing is completed.

  4. It doesn't sound like the Spin Cycle in the process is the problem if it still manages to run for 5 minutes. It seems like the problem would be the Agitate/Wash-In if the entirety of the solution isn't entering the bowl?

    I noticed the saline won't fully enter the bag during cycles if the tubing itself is kinked, but that's more of a physical problem. 

  5. My facility also has HCLL/Epic. We have manila folders/envelopes to keep full workups on patients with antibody histories. You can always refer to the full panels and order of testing when doing crossmatches or new workups. Filing cabinets sort them alphabetically, and recently we purged folders of patients who were pretty old. Theoretically, anyone could go fully digital, but it's a downtime record for now. We have a backup server that stores preliminary testing data that we check periodically throughout the day to see if T/S information crossed over. That way, if HCLL is down, you can see typing results there. No paper records exist for patients without antibodies. 

  6. 3 hours ago, NicolePCanada said:

    Since we opened this topic back up........I was simply going to stop using LISS rather than validating a new type. We never use it anyway. If we can't solve it we send it to Canadian Blood Services. Is there a good reason why we should keep it? Malcolm?

    Protein problem patients, especially a cancer population, maybe? 

  7. We use COBE 2991s, and use protein dipsticks to test the supernatant. The positive control is diluted plasma and we dilute it to get a level of 30, the negative control is saline, and the samples are collected from the wasteline after the washing is done. The washed sample should test for negative or trace protein, following Standard 5.7.4.6, which lists that washed cells should be prepared in a way that removes almost all of the plasma. We don't look at the crit for these.

    There are some other threads on here that also discuss washed QC -- I would also search for those!

     

  8. 1 hour ago, AMcCord said:

    All our orders are received verbally and the products are released from our BB LIS using the emergency release functionality, which pushes the information over to the HIS. If we don't get the signed document, it's quite possible that we would have no documentation that the provider requested the release. If you have an order set specific for uncrossmatched products that the provider enters into the HIS, I would think that that's a different story. The order has captured an electronic signature.

    That's a great point, and my lab operates the same way with our software. I did notice we actually have an order for an MTP that will crossover to us from them, but doctors seldom use it. The few times I have seen it, they verbally order and then file it electronically ex post facto. The mere fact this exists means that hopefully there can be a way to adapt it in the future or stress to use it more.

  9. On 6/7/2020 at 1:37 AM, Oniononorion said:

    That’s a really good point Ward_X.
     

    Emergent events documented in the EMR should be enough to justify our actions in the case of unXM’d blood. I have never thought of the possibility that that would suffice as documentation for this purpose but requiring docs to sign papers really does seem a little archaic after thinking of it in terms of all the information that is available to us in the EMR to prove who requested it, but we in the blood bank are so used to having >complete documentation of everything. But this also can never be assumed as not everyone is so meticulous....

    What programmers should really add to systems like EPIC and the like is signature capabilities under an emergency release record. If a record can say the units were EI and it's already in the patient's file, how convenient would it be if a doctor could sign the consent off that? 

  10. On 4/22/2020 at 6:32 AM, Monique said:

    We assume that every patient is a COVID patient. We place each unit in a zip lock bag with the unit tag placed along the back of the bag, seal the zip lock and place a label across the top of the seal warning that if the seal is broken the unit will be discarded. We do this for every unit.

    At what rates have you been trashing the opened units? Does your individual bagging cause more conservative usage?

  11. 21 hours ago, rosi0017 said:

    Our issue is that the ED providers find a paper form archaic and say that the patients electronically signed EMR note should give enough indication for the product need prior to compatibility testing.

    No...blood is never withheld in an emergency situation. This EMR review would be retrospecitve.

    The amount of times that I have encountered a doctor that refused to transcribe critical information to a Blood Bank paper record is astronomical

    We usually send a form with the emergency pack and if it's not signed when its returned, we send it back to them and someone signs it. 

    It would be easier to get rid of the whole paper signing business, but it serves as a downtime record in and of itself if you cannot issue the units or cannot pull the care team that ordered the emergency. Just a thought.

  12. I don't see why you'd reject a sample just for not being full, that seems a bit unnecessary. QNS or a short sample, obviously, but most patients come through for their T/S, the screen is negative, and that's it.  If you had to wait for a new sample, their old sample could have been done by then. Additionally, calling for "fuller tubes" isn't really the way to ensure higher quality in patient care. 

    Overall, not worth the effort. The care teams on the floor are already quite unhappy when they have to redraw for other reasons, I can't imagine what they'd say if I called requiring a completely full sample! Their fragile stick patients may not be happy either...

  13. On 4/13/2020 at 11:14 AM, Smarty pants said:

    You should contact the bag manufacturer. It's on the bag and google will get you a contact.  You may be destroying the plastic or leaching it into the blood product.  Assuming bleach or alcohol is safe is a huge mistake.  Our manufacturer is recommending distilled water ONLY on platelet bags.
    Coolers SHOULD NOT GO IN ISOLATION ROOMS. Period.

    Coolers can still go... I think the units in the cooler are more of the issue, but it seems by the responses above that facilities have created their own workarounds. 

  14. On 4/1/2020 at 11:57 AM, Johnv said:

    We decontaminate our coolers daily because they go into the OR.  If a cooler came back from an isolation room, we would decontaminate (wipe down with a bleach wipe).  Units returned are also rare because it is difficult to have the RN staff to return blood in a timely manner to ensure it is still 10C or less.  Consequently this is not an issue.  It would be interesting to hear the lessons learned on this subject from the Medical Centers in NYC.

    Whatever units you issue, do you just assume they're not coming back then? You treat it as "once theyre gone theyre gone" ?

  15. I'd parrot the same sentiments listed above. As long as you have ruled-out all other clinically significant antibodies, call the identification a low frequency and call it a day. You'll have to perform any future crossmatches with the same methodology. The chances of it being some crazy rare antibody is, of course, low.

    There was also another thread listed here with a similar question.

  16. 2 hours ago, PerkinsSutton said:

    Can you not wipe the bag down once returned?

    The bags are engineered with a sort of "breathable" membrane, so you could, in a way, poison the product.

    We have found floors trying to wipe down units with bleach before they come back to the Blood Bank, which totally isn't okay !!!! but, they wouldn't know otherwise. The products would have to be discarded,

  17. On 3/16/2020 at 10:14 AM, BankerGirl said:

    When we were using gel, for the antibody screening negative controls we ran one with each diluent and the third with saline.  Now that we are automated, we use saline as the negative control for the Check Cells in tube.

    Same as many above, also use saline as a neg. control for CC so it's "accidentally" QC'd.

    The cubes are also inspected on a daily basis as part of the Cellwasher QC, which checks for valid expiration date of 30d on the cube and that there is sufficient volume.

    Switched over to PBS somewhat recently, all the procedures were modified. 

  18. I wondered the same thing, both about units and the samples from the patients. The only related thing I could think of are policies regarding CJD/vCJD, and those only covered samples. Besides following universal precautions and wearing the necessary PPE, seems to me the only difference is vigorous cleaning of non-disposable equipment with bleach after testing and that samples sent to micro are handled under BSL-3.

    Another point, you don't know the status of every single patient getting blood products, so do you even know who had Flu B before all this madness?

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